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  Told a JW about ARC in August, finally got a reply - Return to Jehovah booklet!!

  by Xanthippe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i've mentioned this friend of my husband's who started writing to me out of the blue about three years ago, decades after we d'aed.

  last august i wrote to her about the arc and jackson's summons.

  i gave her the website details so she could see for herself.

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  *** w69 4/15 p. 229 How to Identify the True Religion ***

  God’s Word shows that there are persons who may have the Bible and even study it but whose works prove that they disown the God they claim to know. “They publicly declare they know God,” the Bible says, “but they disown him by their works, because they are detestable and disobedient and not approved for good work of any sort.” (Titus 1:16; John 5:39, 40) The form of worship that they practice is not pleasing to God, because they do not allow his Word to exercise genuine power in their lives.—2 Tim. 3:5.

  At first one might reason that it is simply one minister who is wrong or certain church members who do not do right. But what if the minister who downgrades the Bible continues to hold his position? And what if the church members who do wrong continue to be in good standing? Then it is time to face the fact that the bad fruits identify the religious organization itself.
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  You contemptible worms aren't giving us enough! GIVE US MORE! Service meeting part December 21, 2015

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  from the october 19 letter to the body of elders:.

  to all bodies of eldersre: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015dear brothers:the service meeting for the week of december 21, 2015, includes a ten-minute part entitledshow appreciation for jehovahs generosity.

  this is to be a talk based on the november15, 2015, watchtower, pages 14-15. sometime during this part, the video a gift in hand to jehovahshould be played for the congregation.

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  (Exodus 5:10-18) 10 So those who drove the people to work and their officers went out and said to the people: “Here is what Phar′aoh has said, ‘I am giving YOU no more straw. 11 YOU yourselves go, get straw for yourselves wherever YOU may find it, because there is to be no reducing of YOUR services one bit.’” 12 Consequently the people scattered about over all the land of Egypt to gather stubble for straw. 13 And those who drove them to work kept urging them, saying: “Finish YOUR works, each one his work, day for day, just as when straw was available.”
  14 Later on the officers of the sons of Israel, whom Phar′aoh’s taskmasters had set over them, were beaten, these saying: “Why is it YOU did not finish YOUR prescribed task in making bricks as formerly, both yesterday and today?” 15 Consequently the officers of the sons of Israel went in and began to cry out to Phar′aoh, saying: “Why do you deal this way with your servants? 16 There is no straw given to your servants and yet they are saying to us, ‘Make bricks!’ and here your servants are beaten, whereas your own people are at fault.” 17 But he said: “YOU are relaxing, YOU are relaxing! That is why YOU are saying, ‘We want to go, we want to sacrifice to Jehovah.’ 18 And now go, serve! Though no straw will be given to YOU, yet YOU are to give the fixed amount of bricks.”
  
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  Greetings

  by Pioneerbot in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wanted to say hi.

  i've been lurking for a long time.

  i also spend time on other forums.

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  cha ching

  Hey there! Awesome for you and your kids!! I love it!

  Like so many others, we would love to hear of the thought processes so that we may help others. Congrats!
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  JWs have more good points than bad

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

  2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

  this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

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  cha ching

  Dang Doc!! You beat me to it! I was at work, didn't have time to post, but that illustration of "just a drop of poison" in the water.... Would you drink it?" has always stuck in my head, and as a witness, I have asked it of many.

  When Jesus was asked for evidence of his resurrection by Thomas, did he say "Wait on Jehovah?" or did he let him stick his fingers in the holes of his hands? Jesus gave proof, he didn't disfellowship people for asking.

  On the other hand, I have had a family member disfellowshipped for telling the truth at a trial. We knew they would be disfellowshipped because we read trial after trial, and saw the same thing occur. No DFing until the trial was over. Want to testify in favor of a child? want to tell the truth? Be prepared to lose your family, your friends, your everything you have made for 20, 30, 40, 50 years. Bam! Gone!

  The WT is not 'concerned about children' or they would welcome 'the truth' in such trials. I remember hearing as a child, teenager, young adult, mother that "We (the WT) have won so many court cases, we have fought for freedom of speech" .... when in reality? in these court cases (time after time after time) they use this "freedom of speech" to say, "we will not answer this, it takes away our freedom of religion"

  I constantly heard the lawyers from WT say, "We have to protect the right of people to confess to the elders" Pedophiles are constantly protected 'by the law' that JW's so proudly quote. Children are not.

  If Jesus is like the WT, and you like Jesus, then it is a sad day indeed.

  Very sad.
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  Too Much Discontent in Congregation Part 1

  by Simon Templar in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am seeing and hearing many, many long-time jws openly expressing problems with either the watchtower society itself, the publications, changing doctrine, incorrectly living their lives as a result of bad doctrine, the behavior of the boe and other related things.

  i will share some of these things in several posts, because there are just too many of them.

  the complaints that i hear from publishers and pioneers are many.

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  As weird as it sounds, I can picture a few people I knew that could "whisper" the F word under their breath to show their discontent when really at the end of their rope.
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  Does the Federal employment law requiring notice of 60 days of mass layoffs apply to Watchtower Corporation?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, bethelites are unpaid volunteers/employees.. this mass firing of bethelites in the us will prove to be a drain on state and local government finances as many of these bethelites will seek government assistance.. can it be said that the federal employment law applies to bethel?.

  a federal law called consolidated omnibus budget reconciliation act ... act (warn) requires larger employers to give employees notice 60 days before an ... layoffs, which are defined the same as above but occur in stages over a period of 90 days.. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/layoffs-plant-closings-know-rights-33596.html.

  notice requirements.

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  Let's get some perspective.... Tell some JW, "Jesus had a legal department... yep, he did.... and when James, Peter & Paul wanted to join him, they had to sign a paper to join a "Special Order" before he would let them... "

  WaaaUUUUuuuuuuuWaaaa.... Doesn't that sound creepy?
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  The longest minute?

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  which is longer, a treadmill minute or a microwave minute?.

  ... or every minute of every thursday meeting when you wanted to get back home in time to see red dwarf and some elder who loved the sound of his own voice had the mic..

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  Haha, Simon! You liked Red Dwarf too!!!??? Yep, before DVRs, VCRs, there was...... TV.... We would stay up late just to catch Dr. Who (the guy with the long scarf and big coat) haha!
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  Gross hypocrisy in September 15, 2015 Watchtower

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ask any jw the question "why do jehovah's witnesses impose their views on others?

  we do not impose our views on anyone!".

  do you impose your views on others?

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  "....The couple had a right to choose for themselves whether they would follow a certain diet and take the supplements, but was it reasonable to put the unity of the congregation at risk over health care? For a time, Christians in ancient Rome had differing opinions with regard to eating certain foods and observing certain days. What advice did Paul give them? Regarding the latter, he said: “One man judges one day as above another; another judges one day the same as all others; let each one be fully convinced in his own mind.” It was important not to put a stumbling block before others.—

  
  What is interesting to me, are the two contradictory statements the WT always uses......

  "Choose for yourselves... don't stumble others"

  Bottom line? Don't choose for yourself, choose for others.
  

  Cognitive dissonance at it's finest, Right?
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  My first Halloween Party

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  warning!

  long post ahead!.

  i didn't know what to expect but i was really excited to be invited to accompany my daughter and her closest friends to a large (300+) party held at a famous hot spot.

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  cha ching

  Sounds FUN!!! Way to go mom! Hope to see you soon!
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  red flag to a bull those carts can't resist !

  by possum in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  went to a market yesterday and there it was a cart manned by a middle-aged women and a young one.

  in a really respectful, friendly manner i approached them and enquired if watchtower society had done anything about its "two witness policy" post royal commission.

  knew nothing of 2 witness rule.

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  cha ching

  You are one awesome possum!!!!

  I loved your courage to be able to approach and explain.. Hold your head high!!!

  Hugs,

  cha ching